The U.S. Air Force has made an agreement with EADS, the European aircraft manufacturer, which has been vying against Chicago-based Boeing for the large military contract.
EADS is the winner of a US$40 billion military aircraft contract to supply refuelling aircraft to the airforce.
EADS will supply the USAF with a modified A330 with a larger capacity than the Boeing 767-200 plane which was on offer.
| By wrangler, 03-03-08, 08:59 AM |
John McCain helped send jobs to France!John McCain helped send jobs to France!
http://mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.ContactForm
Let him know what YOU think! |
| By Also Anonymous, 03-02-08, 09:17 PM |
Simple in Hindsight1) Flying on an A318/319/320 is not pleasant. The climate control is as reliable as the cooling and electrical systems were on my '77 Scirocco (but, unlike the planes, I liked that car). I’ll take a 737 flight anyday. Not just my opinion! However, both platforms take off and land. Also, you can’t blame the U.S. airlines for buying a foreign government subsidized plane. Ironically, that’s capitalism.
2) The USAF picked the plane that best fits its needs. The 767 is too small, the 777 too big. Boeing does not have a platform the size of the 330, and did not choose to build one.
3) In light of item 2, the lease scandal a few years ago makes more sense now (OK, that’s assumption on top of assumption): get the 767 tanker into service as quickly as possible before the objective comparison to the A330, based predominantly on size, is made.
4) The USAF cannot care about how the A330 development was developed; french socialism, government subsidies, make-work programs, nor the rudeness of Parisiens (been there!). Nor can the USAF care about sending $BB abroad, sacrifing American jobs, and providing subsidies and cash flow to Boeing’s only commercial rival. Congress may care, however, which will only drag out the drama.
5) Boeing needs to figure out how to win major military contract. Here’s an idea: offer the right product, or one that fits the bill of what the military really wanted. That was the case with the 737 over the Orion update for the Navy. Not the case with the JSF flying toad and the 767 tanker. Here’s what not to do: rely on “leaders” like Mike Sears. |
| By Anonymous, 03-03-08, 08:25 AM |
| Tanker Toad - Thank TSSR for keeping this plac running so we could even bid on Tanker... |
| By Anonymous, 03-01-08, 01:45 AM |
That's the way the cookie crumbles...Ya’ll brought this failure upon yourselves. Dont blame the Pentagon or the USAF. They just picked a winner, you losers. NG/EADS has a great tanker which wont let them down. Get used to it! Blame this disaster on your complacency, your conceit and arrogance. This is a wake call for you morons which may actually be good for you down the line. |
| By Chucky, 02-29-08, 09:22 PM |
The Malaysian SunWhat a scoop! I’m afraid for you now, though. The Malaysian Sun has a mole in the Pentagon! LMAO |
| By Seven-Oops, 02-29-08, 07:01 PM |
Boeing needs resourceBoeing must keep all the resources for 787 and 747-8.
They withdrew their proposal just in time.
This strategic move will leave EADS with the developement of A350, A380, A400M, the installation of an assembly line in Mobile for the KC-30 and for A330F and the installation of A320 assembly line in China. |
| By FrogFU, 02-29-08, 07:38 PM |
YES!!!!!!!I wish you a good night , poor boeing lover fellow ....
You’ll now live in a more secure country as you have the best plane available to protect you.
To allow you get that marvellous A330 is somewhat a way to thank you for your help in the 40’s ... |
| By Anonymous, 02-29-08, 05:39 PM |
And the winner is.........EADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| By Anonymous, 02-29-08, 05:42 PM |
Hooray for the Malaysian SunTHANK YOU MALAYSIAN SUN FOR YOUR AWESOME EARLY SCOOP!!! |
| By Anonymous, 02-29-08, 05:44 PM |
Hooray for the Malaysian SunTHANK YOU MALAYSIAN SUN FOR YOUR AWESOME EARLY SCOOP!!! |
| By NorthropGrumman706, 02-29-08, 05:03 PM |
So pack it up boys and go back crying to ya momma!Laugh and the world laughs with you, cry and you cry alone. So all you NG bashers out there can just deal with it, because you all mad total fools of yourselves here and we all know who you are! Ha! |
| By Anonymous, 02-29-08, 05:05 PM |
JUST ANOUNCED: EADS WINSNorthrup Grumman/EADS wins KC-X tanker contract |
| By Tanker Toad, 02-29-08, 11:11 AM |
When we NOC win . . .We don’t want any of those lazy JSTARS TSSR punks |
| By Tanker Toad, 02-29-08, 11:11 AM |
When we NOC win . . .We don’t want any of those lazy JSTARS TSSR punks |
| By This is the Real/Original Rubble, 02-29-08, 11:00 AM |
Imposter Alert!I’ve been known as Rubble in the Tanker community since 1985, and now work in the Industry. For the record I have not posted an opinion here, just want to let people know that the “Rubble” posting on this page is not Wurtsmith/Barksdale/Travis/Scott Rubble. Enjoy the rest.
Rubble. |
| By NorthropGrumman706, 02-29-08, 04:52 PM |
EADS and DIE BOEING!!!!! HAHAHAHAIn the end all the Boeing supporters are blowing hot air! |
| By NorthropGrumman706, 02-29-08, 05:01 PM |
NORTHROP GRUMMAN WINS - SO EAT YOUR HEARTS OUT ALL YOU NAY SAYERS OUTTHERE!OH YEA IM RUBBING IT BACK IN YOUR FACING YOU LOSERS. ABOUT TIME OUR US GOV PICKS THE BEST COMPANY TO GET THE JOB DOWN WITH OUT ANY SHORT COMMINGS WHICH BOEING WOULD TOTALLY FALL ON ITS FACE.
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| By FrogFuckU, 02-29-08, 08:57 AM |
For boeing girl,The biggest plane you say .... are you talking about A380 . If it’s the case, the A stands for Airbus , not Boeing ... so French Airbus worker are the best , following your demonstration. Thank you I agree with you ... |
| By Insider, 02-29-08, 09:04 AM |
Boeing and ChinaAs reported in the Washington Post, Boeing’s tanker will be made up of some 90% material that will be procured from CHINA. Boeing is the foreign company here - not EADS. Ever wonder why Boeing lost the B2 Bomber competition....NOC was superior. Boeing sued NOC after the BAFO.(the poor BABIES) and LOST |
| By sheep, 02-29-08, 02:01 AM |
CNN and FOX reportingCNN and FOX reporting? As much as I would love that has anyone else seen it reported other than in here? |
| By boeing girl, 02-29-08, 12:24 AM |
Boeing all the way!!!!Boeing builds the biggest and best airplanes in the world. The best and most qualified to build these no hands down are boeing employees. We will concur the 767 tanker deal. |
| By TheMachine, 02-28-08, 11:14 PM |
| Ahhh, now Routers is reporting that the AF changed the selection criteria only weeks before the selection was made, lowering Northrop/EADS’s score. After 6 years of competition! HAHA. I’ll take some of that action! Are you sure you don’t want to retract this story yet? |
| By TheMachine, 02-28-08, 11:15 PM |
| Ahhh, now Routers is reporting that the AF changed the selection criteria only weeks before the selection was made, lowering Northrop/EADS’s score. After 6 years of competition! HAHA. I’ll take some of that action! Are you sure you don’t want to retract this story yet? |
| By TheMachine, 02-28-08, 11:16 PM |
| Ahhh, now Routers is reporting that the AF changed the selection criteria only weeks before the selection was made, lowering Northrop/EADS’s score. After 6 years of competition! HAHA. I’ll take some of that action! Are you sure you don’t want to retract this story yet? |
| By Kram, 02-28-08, 07:47 PM |
Bigger, Heavier- it would produce more jobsSince the Scarebus is heaver than current airforce landing strips are built for, it will produce more jobs- BULIDING RUNWAYS as well. Not To speak of rebuilding all the infastructure to accomodate the stinking foreign frogs bus, because it’s TOO BIG for current tooling- man what a bunch of frigg’n idiots... Oh and give the job to the silly frenchies who want to build a plant in MO PILE Al. for a lousy 350 jobs- my gawd man you must be drinking anal juice. |
| By AMERICAN BLUE COLAR MINORITIES, 02-28-08, 07:55 PM |
| NAFTA
NEED NOT APLLY FOR TERROSIST AFFILIATION WHAT THE )(*^&^%$% ARE YOU GUYS THINKING SAVE MONEY ON PRODUCTS TO IVEST IN HOUSEING FOR MORE ILLEGAL JOBS TALK ABOUT MOROONS USA IS SUPPOSE TO HAVE ENGINEERING TECHNOLOGY SOMEONE DROP THE BALL ON COOMON WORK ETHIC SINCE |
| By Youhoo, 02-28-08, 05:45 PM |
Just Wait And SeeI wish ya’ll would just quit with all this and wait and see who win Friday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| By Youhoo, 02-28-08, 05:47 PM |
Just Wait And SeeI wish ya’ll would just quit with all this and wait and see who win Friday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| By Tanker Boy, 02-28-08, 05:24 PM |
40 Years and Counting ...That’s how long ago Boeing produced the last tanker. Several other countries have already figured this out and purchased the EADS tanker versus the Boeing tanker. Let’s hope America keeps its eyes open long enough to see the technical advantages of the EADS tanker and not the Boeing propaganda it spews to win contracts. |
| By Jacques Stroppe, 02-28-08, 05:30 PM |
R&D financed by Euro taxpayers"Boeing is considered the overwhelming favorite, but EADS should not be counted out due to its aggressive pricing."
And we all know HOW that “aggressive pricing” is achieved — by forcing Euro taxpayers to finance the Research and Development costs. This is one contest you aren’t going to win by cheating. |
| By Vanguard Action VC10, 02-28-08, 01:56 PM |
Payback TimeEurope is North Americas biggest customer of defence hardware & for years have purchased frequently suspect US decence gear & systems
The procurement boffins of the USAF have made the right selection with EADS in a process that identifed the KC30 the superior operational airframe for the task, hoorah another Boeing beater... |
| By Avro Vulcan, 02-28-08, 02:09 PM |
In Flight RefuelingWho developed & has the longest history of IFR (In Flight Refueling)the English.
The recent acknowledged professional Air Force choice for IFR the A300/KC30 is the RAF & RAAF who tuned down Boeing’s offering.
KC30 the superior performing airframe the yanks to follow or loose out on quality and performance. |
| By wrangler, 02-28-08, 02:12 PM |
This Just In!!!Boeing has just been anounced as the big winner! Yahoo!!!!! |
| By wrangler, 02-28-08, 02:12 PM |
This Just In!!!Boeing has just been anounced as the big winner! Yahoo!!!!! |
| By wrangler, 02-28-08, 02:13 PM |
This Just In!!!Boeing has just been anounced as the big winner! Yahoo!!!!! |
| By wrangler, 02-28-08, 02:13 PM |
This Just In!!!Boeing has just been anounced as the big winner! Yahoo!!!!! |
| By Oliver Clothesoff, 02-28-08, 03:20 PM |
To Frog FU:I am certainly educated enough to share your message, but it’s too idiotic to bother with. And you have nerve bringing up the 787 after delivering that white elephant (which will never make a cent of profit) of yours two years late. |
| By P0l0nium, 02-28-08, 01:55 PM |
I bet its true...The ability to carry LESS fuel for a SHORTER distance would be a WAR LOSING WEAPON... That’s why chose the A330.
And the A330’s additional cargo capacity is the reason they recently stopped the C5 re-engine program.
It all fits together now !! |
| By P0l0nium, 02-28-08, 01:54 PM |
I bet its true...The ability to carry LESS fuel for a SHORTER distance would be a WAR LOSING WEAPON... That’s why chose the A330.
And the A330’s additional cargo capacity is the reason they recently stopped the C5 re-engine program.
It all fits together now !! |
| By straight facts, 02-28-08, 01:50 PM |
To Common Sense????Japan 1 was delivered to Japan last week. Where were you. Did you miss it. Get 'your facts straight'. At least it has delivered fuel - which the EADS aircraft has not. Thought is was supposed to be ready last November??? Hmmm. |
| By P0l0nium, 02-28-08, 01:53 PM |
I bet its true...The ability to carry LESS fuel for a SHORTER distance would be a WAR LOSING WEAPON... That’s why chose the A330.
And the A330’s additional cargo capacity is the reason they recently stopped the C5 re-engine program.
It all fits together now !! |
| By VC10, 02-28-08, 01:45 PM |
Pay back timeAll the years whilst Europe was forced to buy frequently dodgy US military gear & systems.
Europe maintains the position of being the largest defence market for the US clobber.
The USAF procurement boffins have effectively snubbed Boeing for EADS superior airframe, hooray.... |
| By FrogFuckU, 02-28-08, 12:40 PM |
Petite message de la FranceCa vous fait tout drole de l’avoir “dans le cul” les americains ? et oui pourtant vos militaires ne sont pas si idiots d’acheter un avion vieux de 40 ans, a une compagnie qui ne sait plus faire les avions , voire le 787 . Au fait il vole quand ce 787 ? Les plus instruits pourront traduire pour les autres .... |
| By A true patriot, 02-28-08, 12:39 PM |
it's what is best for those in uniform that countslet me tell you something: as a patriot in these days I don’t care who builds something and how many jobs are created. We are at war and probably will be facing new conflicts that cause American men and women to fight for our liberty and rights. The only thing that should be of any concern for us is that our military has the best possible equipment at hand. If the Airbus is the better aircraft, than so be it. I don’t give a sh** that Boeing claims to create more jobs. It’s not a handful of jobs at stake, it’s the superiority of our fighting forces and we should not ask the Airforce to fight for us with inferior equipment. Looking at the jobs alone is an untruthful patrotism! |
| By Soylent Purple, 02-28-08, 12:05 PM |
EAD me!!Message from EADS: “Buy ze tankers from us or we will taunt you a second time-uh!" |
| By purplepower, 02-28-08, 10:56 AM |
IgnoranceJapan has delivered, Japan 2 is delivering next week and Boeing will be announced Friday as the winner over the imaginary EADs papar tanker. |
| By JS, 02-28-08, 09:38 AM |
EADS WILL CREATE JOBS IN AMERICA!Northrop Grumman and EADS will create jobs in the United States. Not outsource them. Airbus will build the aircraft in Mobile where they will also be outfitted as tankers by Northrop Grumman. |
| By wrangler, 02-28-08, 07:57 AM |
This Just InBoeing has just been anounced as the big winner! Yahoo!!!!! |
| By wrangler, 02-28-08, 07:57 AM |
This Just InBoeing has just been anounced as the big winner! Yahoo!!!!! |
| By wrangler, 02-28-08, 07:57 AM |
This Just InBoeing has just been anounced as the big winner! Yahoo!!!!! |
| By wrangler, 02-28-08, 07:58 AM |
This Just In!!!Boeing has just been anounced as the big winner! Yahoo!!!!! |
| By wrangler, 02-28-08, 07:58 AM |
This Just In!!!Boeing has just been anounced as the big winner! Yahoo!!!!! |
| By wrangler, 02-28-08, 07:59 AM |
This Just In!!!Boeing has just been anounced as the big winner! Yahoo!!!!! |
| By wrangler, 02-28-08, 07:59 AM |
This Just In!!!Boeing has just been anounced as the big winner! Yahoo!!!!! |
| By wrangler, 02-28-08, 08:07 AM |
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| By wrangler, 02-28-08, 08:07 AM |
This Just In!!!Boeing has just been anounced as the big winner! Yahoo!!!!! |
| By Commen sense, 02-28-08, 08:21 AM |
KC-30 TankerHey RED-WHITE-&-BLUE-BLOGGER get your facts straight. The Boeing KC-767 has been delayed being delivered to Japan and Italy. Tried and tested?!?! What are you smoking? |
| By Commen sense, 02-28-08, 08:22 AM |
KC-30 TankerHey RED-WHITE-&-BLUE-BLOGGER get your facts straight. The Boeing KC-767 has been delayed being delivered to Japan and Italy. Tried and tested?!?! What are you smoking? |
| By WilyB, 02-28-08, 09:07 AM |
The Sun knows... where Jimmy Hoofa is.
Seriously many of you guys wrote some incredibly misinformed comments. |
| By Billybob Thornton, 02-28-08, 07:05 AM |
wait until Barney, Gomer and Goober start drillingOh Man what a crock, you think those southern boys are going to drill a straight hole? Just ask Boeing whats happening in Charleston. |
| By bunk, 02-27-08, 05:02 AM |
No wayClearly the “malaysia sun” is a reputable, credible, world-trusted news organization. That’s why there aren’t ANY other traces of this information (including citations of this dubious newsrag) in the press anywhere. Total crap - I’d believe if if the pentagon issued a press release or boeing or eads said something. |
| By Huh?, 02-26-08, 10:03 PM |
US Air Force makes a deal with foreign supplierIs this real? |
| By Chucky, 02-26-08, 10:28 PM |
| Nothing has been announced. The USAF has said they will announce a decision this week after the US markets have closed (1600 New York time). There is paperwork still to be signed in the DOD. |
| By Huh?, 02-26-08, 10:37 PM |
Thank you!Thank you Chucky! |
| By The Real Story, 02-26-08, 10:40 PM |
| Either you have a great inside source or you seriously jumped the gun. Which one is it? |
| By Yup!, 02-26-08, 10:56 PM |
| It’s real! |
| By JohnKimble, 02-26-08, 10:58 PM |
What crapComplete bullshit. |
| By wtf?, 02-26-08, 11:17 PM |
WTF?WTF??????????? |
| By bunk, 02-27-08, 05:02 AM |
No wayClearly the “malaysia sun” is a reputable, credible, world-trusted news organization. That’s why there aren’t ANY other traces of this information (including citations of this dubious newsrag) in the press anywhere. Total crap - I’d believe if if the pentagon issued a press release or boeing or eads said something. |
| By TankerBoy, 02-27-08, 05:29 AM |
Way to go!Great job by NG and EADS. The USAF has cleary picked the superior tanker! |
| By anybody but bunk, 02-27-08, 05:56 AM |
Eat your heart out, bunk.I kinda like this news. |
| By bunk, 02-27-08, 05:58 AM |
Heh hehcouldn’t happen to a nicer company. |
| By wrangler, 02-27-08, 08:46 AM |
lol you mucks!Oh, please, like Bunk said, there are no names attached to this story. Wait until the markets close today, Boeing will be the big winner! |
| By Grummie Boy, 02-27-08, 09:13 AM |
AwesomeWe deserved to win |
| By Anonymous, 02-27-08, 09:19 AM |
Foriegn CompanyI think what most media outlets fail to fail to mention is that if the contract is won by EADS the planes will be made here in the US - Mobile, Alabama (which could really use the economic boom that the project would bring to it’s region. Also, Boeing the “US company” - like many American companies gets many of the parts for their planes from foreign countries. EADS “the foreign company” is currently a contractor for many US Defence projects. Its US headquarters just so happens to be a stone’s through from the Pentagon and keeps many Americans gainfully employed through its many US subsidiaries. |
| By NG-EADS team player, 02-27-08, 09:48 AM |
What an upset!This is truly a great David-Goliath story. This will be a big boost to many American companies, especially in Alabama! Go TOADS! |
| By HAHAHAHA, 02-27-08, 09:51 AM |
oh manThe Malaysia Sun also posted the New England Patriots won the Super Bowl!! |
| By Anonymous, 02-27-08, 10:05 AM |
Why was Boeing ..Even allowed to bid on this contract after the stuuf they pulled the first time around .... |
| By FlyBoy, 02-27-08, 10:43 AM |
What you get with Boeing...is a rehash of an existing 30 year old design with a fuel bladder. Yikes!
The NG/EADS proposal is infinitely superior! |
| By FlyBoy, 02-27-08, 10:43 AM |
What you get with Boeing...is a rehash of an existing 30 year old design with a fuel bladder. Yikes!
The NG/EADS proposal is infinitely superior! |
| By Echos, 02-27-08, 11:05 AM |
Full stopWill not say why or how, but first step would not be Boeing contracted. This doesn’t mean game is over, let see the 2nd act. With justice of course. |
| By TANKER STOCKER, 02-27-08, 03:04 PM |
FINISH LINE IN SIGHTTo be so bold and make an announcement of this nature when the real decision has not been announced in the public forum is wrong. Being someone with insider knowledge makes me wonder why people can report on something that is not a fact. Stay tuned! the public announce ment will be a 4:50 today EDT
Good luck to both companies. |
| By shaft, 02-27-08, 11:40 AM |
BSThis is BS.... |
| By whatever, 02-27-08, 03:15 PM |
not trueEads is not a better design! bigger means heavier, which means higher fuel cost, which means limited airfields it can land on across the world. 767 tanker has been in production for foreign countries, which means lower cost to build (plants are already build in Everett and Wichita). Eads will have cost overruns as well as performance shortfalls. Not to mention the US dollar falling to the Euro |
| By JS, 02-27-08, 12:32 PM |
SourcesWhile I am exceptionally excited and hope that this is true, would the Sun be willing to tell us atleast the nature (title and/or rank, level of involvment in tanker procurement) of thier source? |
| By JS, 02-27-08, 12:33 PM |
SourcesWhile I am exceptionally excited and hope that this is true, would the Sun be willing to tell us atleast the nature (title and/or rank, level of involvment in tanker procurement) of thier source? |
| By JS, 02-27-08, 12:34 PM |
SourcesWhile I am exceptionally excited and hope that this is true, would the Sun be willing to tell us atleast the nature (title and/or rank, level of involvment in tanker procurement) of thier source? |
| By Big Tight, 02-27-08, 12:35 PM |
Boeing Wins Tanker deal.The real announcement will be made by the end of next year. Still several more meetings to go. Winner should be selected by July 2009. Boeing is the odds on favorite. Go Boeing. |
| By JS, 02-27-08, 12:56 PM |
FYI, Big TightSorry. But several officials, including senators, have indicated that the choice HAS in fact been made, they are just crossing thier Ts and dotting their Is. The entire US mainland media is expecting an announcement any mintute now since Monday, and no later than Friday. |
| By kc30, 02-27-08, 02:35 PM |
its trueits true, trust me, im in the know |
| By Fly Boy, 02-27-08, 02:38 PM |
de HavillandI thought the British tanker bid from BAE had won. |
| By Clemi, 02-27-08, 02:41 PM |
| Are there other info |
| By Clemi, 02-27-08, 02:41 PM |
| Are there other info |
| By General Mills, 02-27-08, 02:55 PM |
Its True Trust MeIts True Trust Me I Know all the other opinions are just Fruit Loops |
| By Gneral Mills, 02-27-08, 02:56 PM |
Its True Trust MeIts True Trust Me I’m in the Know all the other opinions are just Fruit Loops |
| By RobH, 02-27-08, 03:04 PM |
Of Flux Capacitors and itchy typing fingers...The Malaysian Sun has “reported” that EADS and Northrop Grumman have won the USAF tanker contract. No word yet if they were able to generate the required 1.21 gigawatts for the return trip.
-FlightBlogger |
| By Seven-Oops, 02-27-08, 03:19 PM |
True.Boeing is putting all their resources on 787. No more resource is available for KC-767 development. One day before the deadline, Boeing withdrew their proposal.
EADS won the contract. |
| By Hugh G Rexion, 02-27-08, 03:22 PM |
No wayThey prefer the small one. |
| By Anonymous, 02-27-08, 03:22 PM |
Author?Can’t the Malaysian Sun even identify the 'reporter' responsible for this story? |
| By grumps, 02-27-08, 03:24 PM |
this is badWe, who are supposed to the power of the world, will now have to deoend on the frogs to win a war. We couldn’t do it WWII, what makes you think it will work now? |
| By Dak Peoples, 02-27-08, 03:27 PM |
...I really *believe* this credible source of news.
This bid is going be be pushed off until the announcement of X-48. The Blended Wing Body aircraft which the US Air Force wants as a Tanker.
“The Air Force is looking at the blended wing body concept for a variety of potential applications, including as a cargo/personnel transport and a refueling tanker." -http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/improvingflight/bwb-aedc.html |
| By grumps, 02-27-08, 03:31 PM |
jobs?EADS will creat 1500 jobs in states. planes will be made in Europe and only modified in the states. Boeing will build and modify in states. How would you like to be a US piolet and have to follow a French plane for fule ? Would you go to France to fill your car? |
| By TRUTH FINDER, 02-27-08, 03:34 PM |
Malaysia Sun IncorrectWASHINGTON, Feb 27 (Reuters) - The U.S. Air Force’s top weapons buyer said on Wednesday her best bet was that the winner of a potential $40 billion refueling aircraft contract would be announced after U.S. markets close on Friday.
“That’s my best bet for now," Sue Payton, assistant secretary for acquisition, told Reuters after a hearing of the House of Representatives Armed Services Committee on the Air Force 2009 budget request.
Boeing Co (BA.N: Quote, Profile, Research) is vying for the contract against a team made up of Northrop Grumman Corp (NOC.N: Quote, Profile, Research) and Europe’s EADS (EAD.PA: Quote, Profile, Research).
“It’s absolutely not going to happen today," Payton said. “We’re really making sure all the 'i’s' are dotted and 't’s' are crossed."
Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne earlier told Reuters he hoped an award would be announced “any day now," once the Pentagon’s top weapons buyer, John Young, has signed off on he plan to buy 179 tankers, used to extend warplanes' operating range.
“You don’t have a decision until all the paperwork is done and complete," Wynne said during a break in testimony to the House panel.
The Air Force presented its acquisition plan on Monday to a top-level panel chaired by Young, the deputy undersecretary for acquisitions. (Reporting by Jim Wolf, editing by Mark Porter)
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| By Anonymous, 02-27-08, 03:37 PM |
No wayIn light of an economic downturn, I’d prefer NOT to send any American taxpayer money overseas to any European-owned consortium. AND using taxpayer money to build new facilities when Boeing already has thousands of trained workers AND established facilities is wasteful. AND conveniently finding an American partner in Northrup Grumman (while I’m sure they are lovely people) is insulting. Let’s be reasonable, Boeing is the better choice and I hope the Air Force realizes it. |
| By AcquisitionMan, 02-27-08, 03:44 PM |
Pulled Their Proposal????? Are you nuts???Seven-Oops, first of all, no one pulls a proposal at the last minute - they “submit” them at the last minute. Second, why would any company 'pull' its proposal for a gadzillion dollar program at the last minute??? Ludicrous. |
| By THE AMERICAN WAY, 02-27-08, 03:53 PM |
JOBSKeep the jobs in America No “Smoke and Mirrors” EADS will only be using 450 US workers to built this POS airplane Anyone who works on an Aribus knows they are a throw away airplane. Look at the KC 135.. She has been a faithful servant of many thursty American fighters, and Cargo aircraft for over 40 years. Trial by fire test “PASSED” the KC 767 is flying and is currently being delivered to foregin countries. The EADS POS is still years away from going into service when built in the US.
I’ll gladly pay a little more in taxes to keep Americas aerospace industry strong. Remember to VOTE any U.S. Congressman/Woman or Senator OUT if they don’t support the American Workers! -RED-WHITE-&-BLUE-BLOGGER |
| By NG-EADS team player, 02-27-08, 04:01 PM |
KC-30 is just as American as the Boeing offeringAmerican Way- I beg to differ. The A330 will be militarized and modified COMPLETELY in America (in Mobile, AL)to transform it into the KC-30 and provide jobs for hundreds of subcontractors. Northrop Grumman workers from many states will lead the effort. The KC-30 is just as RED, WHITE and BLUE as the Boeing 767 offering! |
| By $MAN, 02-27-08, 04:23 PM |
not yetair force won’t issue the contract until boeing has paid more money in bribes |
| By $MAN, 02-27-08, 04:23 PM |
not yetair force won’t issue the contract until boeing has paid more money in bribes |
| By Winner, 02-27-08, 04:23 PM |
Great Job, Malaysia Sun !!!The US Air Force has gone to great lengths to closely guard the tanker winner news until this Friday. Congratulations, Malaysia Sun on your outstanding investigative staff of reporters! Maybe you can tell us where Bin Laden is now? |
| By $MAN, 02-27-08, 04:24 PM |
not yetair force won’t issue the contract until boeing has paid more money in bribes |
| By Doubtful, 02-27-08, 04:41 PM |
Well...The decision hasn’t been officially released yet, but the Malaysia Sun has a 50% chance of getting the story right! |
| By fjjg77, 02-27-08, 04:42 PM |
KC-30 is the best oneThe KC-30 is currently the best aircraft for refueling operations and it’s the best choice if the USAF really wants to have available the best technology.
This is as clear as the RAAF, RAF, UAE and Saudi Arabian have selected the KC-30 instead of the KC-767. |
| By A Real American, 02-27-08, 04:42 PM |
GO BOEINGNorthrop Grumman is ony a pawn in this game and are only doing it to make an extra buck. They will have tint tiny to do with eads after contract signing. Jobs and tax dollard need STAY in this country. The Fench don’t like us, only our money.$man doesn’t know what he is talking about. The US effort will be only 1500 jobs vs tens of thousands if Boeing prevails. |
| By Fonzie, 02-27-08, 04:43 PM |
JobsIf anyone really beleives that EADS would create a significant number of jobs in the USA to “modify” this aircraft, then I have some swamp land in Florida for sale. Get serious ... EADS / Airbus is a “Jobs Program” for Europe and awarding any US Contract to them will only result in European jobs. |
| By RED-WHITE-&-BLUE-BLOGGER, 02-27-08, 04:58 PM |
JOBSKeep the jobs in America No “Smoke and Mirrors” EADS will only be using 450 US workers to built this POS airplane Anyone who works on an Aribus knows they are a throw away airplane. Look at the KC 135.. She has been a faithful servant of many thursty American fighters, and Cargo aircraft for over 40 years. Trial by fire test “PASSED” the KC 767 is flying and is currently being delivered to foregin countries. The EADS POS is still years away from going into production in the USA.EADS will probaly build the first 15 to 25 outside the U.S. So really any US job could be 2 to 4 years out.
I’ll gladly pay a little more in taxes to keep Americas aerospace industry strong. Remember All Americans choose theri repesentatives by voting them into office. We als have the right to VOTE any U.S. Congressman/Woman or Senator OUT if they don’t support the American Workers! -RED-WHITE-&-BLUE-BLOGGER |
| By Anonymous, 02-27-08, 05:04 PM |
KC-30 vs. KC-767The KC-30 is a much larger aircraft, almost the same size as the KC-10. The KC-767 is just slightly larger than the KC-135 this KC-X bid is supposed to replace.
There will be a follow-on KC-Y tanker competition in a couple of years to replace KC-10s, and the KC-30 will be a strong contender against the KC-777.
The KC-30 will not be built in Mobile, Al. It will be built by EADS as a basic airframe, then flown to Mobile where it will be outfitted with refueling equipment. Also, EADS has said that it will also move it’s A-330F final assembly to Mobile if it gets the tanker bid.
I’d say there is a 50-50 chance that the order will be split between both Boeing and EADS. |
| By vag, 02-27-08, 05:08 PM |
Boeing all the wayI will vote against politician who votes or supports giving the tanker contract to airbus. The French government owns 10% of EAD-Airbus. The US taxpayer should not be paying money to the French government. This is the government that would not allow our planes to overfly there territory when we bombed Libya in the mid-eighties and they call themselves are allies. |
| By RED-WHITE-&-BLUE-BLOGGER, 02-27-08, 05:09 PM |
(Reply) NG-EADS team playerIn reply to your Posting...
What are you smoking? You said it yourself the airplane will be modified in the USA NOT BUILT....Boeing builds the KC-767in the USA; It’s not built in a foregin country and flown here to be “Modified” It is a RED-WHITE-&-BLUE BUILT ON AMERICAN PRIDE AIRPLANE! It won’t have drawings that require a degree in French to read, It won’t Maintenance Manuals Written first in French. The KC-767 is a Native Born American! Born in America and proud to serve those who protect our way of life.
Support Your American Workers! RED-WHITE-&-BLUE-BLOGGER |
| By Anonymous, 02-27-08, 05:22 PM |
Which One to Buy?A man walks into a Toyota dealership and 2 salesmen rush to help him. He says, “I want to buy a 4Runner." One salesman quickly points to a nearby 4Runner and says, “Let me show you this vehicle." The other salesman points to a Sequoia and says, “Let me show you this vehicle." The man says, “I’m looking for a 4Runner not a Sequoia." The second salesman says, “But the Sequoia is the right vehicle for you." Quess which salesman got the sale? |
| By lookingbackwards, 02-27-08, 06:27 PM |
Truth be told...Looks like Malaysia Sun figured out a way to drive a lot of traffic to their site. Maybe generate a little adsense profit out of the deal. Just goes to show ya. |
| By Anonymous, 02-27-08, 06:40 PM |
Tanker TalkGreat job Malayasia sun for this scoop!USAF must have been convinced that NG/EADS offering is more modern and suited for its role. Especially after getting orders from Australian, UK, UAE and Saudi Air Forces. And then its the Southern states AL, MS, LA and FL that desparately needs jobs and stimulate a sluggish economy. What would the point in giving all these jobs to Seattle and Wichita. It would only drive up the cost of living there. They dont really need these jobs! |
| By Soylent Purple, 02-27-08, 06:56 PM |
Yeah, rightThe Sun is also announcing that Dewey has defeated Truman for President. |
| By Dr. Reality, 02-27-08, 08:49 PM |
TOO MANY SHITHEADS ABOVE WHO DONT KNOW WHAT THEIR TALKIN ABOUTLets put away the false pride and look at reality. The KC-30 is superior in every way. Boeings claims are exadurated, especially those on employment. They are falling over themselves turning this into a mass employment campaign because their plane is inferior and they know it. |
| By Dr. Reality, 02-27-08, 08:59 PM |
| quoting:
Thats what we need a scarebus full of jetfuel.:eek
One of the stupidest things ive ever heard. What the f+++ do you think a civilian airbus has in its wings when it flys? Water? A plane does not have to be a tanker to contain fuel. |
| By JS, 02-27-08, 09:05 PM |
to grumpy and RED-WHITE-&-BLUE-BLOGGERThe KC-30 will be BUILT in Mobile, Alabama at Brookley Field/Mobile Downtown Airport, as will A330 cargo planes. It will then go to a co-located Northrop Grumman facility to be MODIFIED. BUILDING AND MODIFICATION WILL BOTH HAPPEN IN MOBILE, ALABAMA. |
| By Stymie, 02-27-08, 09:29 PM |
Just in....I heard it on CNN at 8:25p 2-27-08Contract was won by EADS!!! the planes will be made here in the US - Mobile, Alabama Turn on your TV’s NOW!!! Where does CNN get its source? Great Job CNN |
| By Stymie, 02-27-08, 09:30 PM |
Just in....I heard it on CNN at 8:25p 2-27-08Contract was won by EADS!!! the planes will be made here in the US - Mobile, Alabama Turn on your TV’s NOW!!! Where does CNN get its source? Great Job CNN |
| By noway, 02-27-08, 09:51 PM |
just in...you are as bad as malysin sun with you miss information |
| By noway, 02-27-08, 09:51 PM |
just in...you are as bad as malysin sun with you miss information |
| By noway, 02-27-08, 09:52 PM |
just in...you are as bad as malysin sun with you miss information |
| By noway, 02-27-08, 09:53 PM |
just in...you are as bad as malysin sun with you miss information |
| By Big Tank Lover, 02-27-08, 10:40 PM |
Fox is reporting it now!Fox news is also reporting it now. EADS is the winner! Boeing SUX! |
| By Big Tank Lover, 02-27-08, 10:41 PM |
Fox is reporting it now!Fox news is also reporting it now. EADS is the winner! Boeing SUX! |
| By Forrest Gump, 02-28-08, 12:47 AM |
Greenbow, ALABAMA!This is good news cuz Lt. Dan said I might be buildin' planes soon an' I can give up my job cuttin' grass for free. Seems that everything I do turns to gold so if this plant starts up in Alabama, it will be a success fer sure. Then again, I am a fictional character so Boeing should probably win.
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| By Anonymous, 02-27-08, 05:40 PM |
| What wrong with keeping jobs in the USA?
Boeing makes a much better product. |
| By Rubble, 02-27-08, 10:09 AM |
| Thats what we need a scarebus full of jetfuel.:eek: |
