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Jews not only ones to suffer in Holocaust says archbishop
Malaysia Sun
Saturday 28th March, 2009
A Catholic archbishop in Brazil says the Holocaust did not just victimise Jews.
Archbishop Dadeus Grings, from Porto Alegre in southern Brazil, did not dispute the number of Jews killed, but said Catholics and gypsies were perscuted more.
"The Jews talk about six million people killed. But how many Catholics were victims of the Holocaust? They were 22 million in all," Archbishop Dadeus Grings, of Porto Alegre in southern Brazil, was quoted as saying in the Press & Advertising publication.
"Jews say they were the main victims of the Holocaust, the biggest victims were the gypsies, because they were exterminated," he said.
Friday's remarks were not the first controversial words utted by the archbishop, who has held his post since May 2000.
Shortly after the September 11, 2001 attacks he defended claims by some that the attacks were caused by U.S. foreign policy.
"For Christian morality, any previous evil act does not justify or even lessen the moral gravity of a terrorist act. A truly Catholic morality could not justify or even reduce the moral responsibility of the horrible acts that occurred on September 11," Archbishop Grings said on September 27 2001.
"In fact, the United States, because it is a hegemonic power in the world, has become the target of several nations and groups who want to limit this power; nevertheless, not even this desire justifies the intrinsically evil act committed against them," the archbishop, who is a member of the Doctrine of Faith Commission of the Brazilian Episcopate, added.
The Jewish federation of the state of Rio Grande do Sul was quick to respond to Grings latest remarks. "To diminish the Holocaust is an attack against the millions of people killed in a war unleashed by fanaticism and intolerance," the group said in a statement.
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| By Anonymous, 03-28-09, 02:11 PM |
Jews not only ones to suffer in Holocaust says archbishopIt is absolutely true that other innocent people also suffer in the war. Even Germany and Japan suffer greatly before and after their surrender. Many POWs in Germany were left to die without food and shelter under the direction of General Eisenhower. He stripped off their uniform and claimed these German combatant not protected under the Geneva convention and was left to die. As for the Japanese, their suffer under the Tokyo fire bombing and subsequent atomic bombing are well know. |
| By Anonymous, 03-28-09, 02:21 PM |
| MMmmm. Self inflicted well known. |
| By Anonymous, 03-28-09, 06:25 PM |
| 01 20pm. Like to think your wrong. Some of us do remember. Condolences. |
| By vadi, 03-28-09, 07:09 PM |
WrongThe Bishop is not only incorrect but dishonest. The Catholic church did little to stop the slaughter of Jews and Gypsies, and indeed in former Yugoslavia a puppet regime headed by Catholic Croats helped German occupiers to kill non-Catholics. The Catholic church’s role during the years of Fascist power is a very shabby one indeed. The Papacy signed a Concordat with Mussolini’s Italy, backed Franco’s forces in Spain, and reached ageement with Nazi Germany. The Pope turned a blind eye to Hitler’s massacres in Eastern Europe, and his treatment of ethnic and religious minorities. |
| By Marcel S., 03-30-09, 01:23 AM |
He will be crucified by the media for these commentsHis point is simple, there was enough suffering to go around during the Nazi era, so why are we focusing so heavily on the Jews, as if they were the only ones to suffer?
This of course is because the Jews ultimately advocate an elitist, if not racist ideology, as the God’s Chosen race, which means their sufferings are the only sufferings that matter.
Read their traditional writings, and you will see that they view non-Jews as less than human.
The hedgemony of the Jews on Nazi suffering needs to be addressed by the media and historians, because they are manipulating it for their own gain, and for support of the state of Israel, in the face of sufferings for the Palestinians.
If the Jews didn’t guilt the world about the Holocaust, they wouldn’t have been given Israel, and if Israel wasn’t taken away from the Palestinians, we wouldn’t have all this terrorism going on right now.
The Jews have to be told to shut up, and settle down, they are defiantely becoming “odious to the nations." |
| By lejos del usa 6, 03-30-09, 10:32 PM |
Modern Day HolacaustIn the “perfect” usa abortion has been made legal since 1973 — resulting in the shreding alive of over 30 million babys — far more then jewish victims in WW2 — it always amaze me that if jewish suffer so much in WW2 — they do not care about the suffering of the 30 million babys killed in usa abortions — yet — in the usa — jewish erect huge monuments to dead jewish from europe — nothing for the dead babys of aboritons — this is simply not logical — especially since all the leaders in the usa/international feminists are usa jewish women — Gloria Allred — GLoria Steinam — Betty Friedan — Barbara Streisand — Barbara Walters — the list is huge — all jewish all pro abortions
Brasil is a Christian Nation where — in obediance to Gods Laws — abortion is illegal — this is the contrast between a christian dominated nation — Brasil — & a jewish dominated nation — the USA |
| By Roma Justice, 03-28-09, 05:20 PM |
NEWS FLASH! JEWS NOT THE ONLY VICTIMS OF HOLOCAUST!!"Gypsies” and “Jews” suffered equal losses, as the persecution and extermination rate was 85% for both groups. There is no exact number, as mostly persons on Nazi death lists are counted, as hard fact. There are millions who died en-route to the camps,or were executed on the spot! My family still has over 400 members (mostly elderly and children)that have not been accounted for, who are still missing, over 64 years later! This fact repeats itself, countless times, within the Roma, Sinti and Jewish communities. It is said that Roma where not racially targeted for Genocide, as the Nazi’s classified “Gypsies” as Asocials, this is a myth. Roma (Gypsies) have always been persecuted, and slaughtered, right along side of the Jews. Roma were decimated during the Holocaust, as 85% of their population, in all Nazi occupied countries, were exterminated. Many, shot in the head, right on the spot! Yet, when it comes to the Holocaust, Roma are reduced down to a grudging footnote, a by line, two little words, that read “and others”. WWI and WII devoured an entire century of people! The estimated human death toll for WWII, worldwide is over 73 Million people! It is feared far higher, the fact is, we will never know,the exact numbers. Sad thing is, the world at large, has learned nothing! |
| By Abe Bird, 04-07-09, 01:25 PM |
Many people have been killed in WWIIBut only Jews have been murdered because of being Jews or Gypsies. One can not equate Jews to British, Germans or Russians, because Jews had no state to be in war. The German Nazis didn’t kill French, Hungarian and Russian just because they are so. The Nazis killed those who opposed their occupation, but the Jews and Gypsies. They were murdered by all available means by the Nazis and their counter parts for being what they are, and they hadn’t a state nor an army to defend themselves. Jews and Gypsies were dwelling in most of Europe and they weren’t partners in the war as such. The Nazis chased and murdered Jews, elderly and babies, women and ills, just for being Jews according to their racist dogma. Only and some of the Gypsies, were sent the ovens to be gazed and burned!
If Jews had a state at that time sure they all could have been escaped to that state, Israel, and fight from there if needed against the Nazy Germany. Then they would have been almost equal to those who were against Germany.
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| By Arc, 05-12-09, 05:36 AM |
Roma worst sufferers of holocaustI absolutely agree with some of the comments above. The Roma have not made the same noises like the Jews have about how much they suffered. The Jews elicit sympathies from every corner of the globe because they have been so vocal about the suffering they were subjected to and have used the media to consistently draw attention to their holocaust. Whereas the Jews continue to receive compensation to this day, the overwhelming majority of Roma struggle to get the administration in their host countries to take notice of their existence and sins committed against their community(most people in the U.S. wouldn’t even who the Roma are). Probably the biggest tragedy of all this is how it has ultimately shaped the U.S’s and the West’s foreign policy as regards to the middle east. |
| By Anonymous, 06-10-09, 02:36 AM |
The Jews want the world to forget the other victims of the warActually, the Germans did kill the Russians simply because they are so. They killed the Poles, Czechs, and Serbs simply because they were Slavs. It was Hitler’s objective to wipe them all out so he could settle Germans in their lebensraum |
| By An. Patriot, 06-13-09, 08:45 PM |
| You people might want to read a book called “Gruesome Harvest” as well as do some research on the so-called Concentration camps (Start by asking yourself questions like When they were built, how big were they, what capacity they had and when, how much time did they have to supposively kill all of these people, etc.?) If you do the research and the math, you will find that the haulocaust is one big fabrication in terms of its numbers (6 millions jews died in concentration camps? BS) You will begin to find out that jews and their allies have been good at lying. I would give them the award for being the biggest liars at this point although many other groups are good as well.
P.S. Check out who told the lies about Iraq and you might be amazed at how many Jews you find. Names like Wolfowitz, Pearl, Leiberman, Bush (Check family history!), Hillary Clinton (has admitted Jewish family history), Rumsfeld, Rockefeller, etc. Check out the Obama administration for Jews. It might just shock you that such a small group of people could have such a big influence in American politics. Heck, his Chief of Staff is said to have admitted he served in the Israeli military! |
| By Anonymous, 06-10-09, 02:38 AM |
The Jews want the world to forget the other victims of the warActually, the Germans did kill the Russians simply because they are so. They killed the Poles, Czechs, and Serbs simply because they were Slavs. It was Hitler’s objective to wipe them all out so he could settle Germans in their lebensraum |
| By Anonymous, 06-10-09, 08:19 AM |
Less tragic?Why does the fact that the Jews had no state or army to protect them make it more tragic than those who had? Sure, Poland, Russia and other states had armies to protect them, but they were responsible for protecting the Jews, as well. When the Germans conquered these people, they were left without protection. So why does the killing of native French, Chinese, Russians, or Poles make it less tragic? |
| By Iv, 11-11-09, 09:31 PM |
War is a tragedy, every dead is a tragedyHe’s right. In a war people dies from every side. In the 2WW millions of people were killed, Dresden, Leningrad, Varsovia and etc. And doesn’t matter which side they are, every dead is a tragedy for their families. We can’t forget that. Doesn’t matter who’s your leader, which side you’re fighting for, if you loss a brother, son or your entire family it’s a tragedy. But now, in this media world it seems like every jew dead counts but no the other millions of persons who suffered and still suffering. So now we are under the doctrine which say: Kill jews are bad but not the war. isntead to say every dead and every war from all sides in every corner of the world are wrong and we must to stop that kind of madness. |
| By Pontotoc Bill, 11-12-09, 08:11 PM |
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An. Patriot;145021:
You people might want to read a book called “Gruesome Harvest” as well as do some research on the so-called Concentration camps (Start by asking yourself questions like When they were built, how big were they, what capacity they had and when, how much time did they have to supposively kill all of these people, etc.?) If you do the research and the math, you will find that the haulocaust is one big fabrication in terms of its numbers (6 millions jews died in concentration camps? BS) You will begin to find out that jews and their allies have been good at lying. I would give them the award for being the biggest liars at this point although many other groups are good as well.
P.S. Check out who told the lies about Iraq and you might be amazed at how many Jews you find. Names like Wolfowitz, Pearl, Leiberman, Bush (Check family history!), Hillary Clinton (has admitted Jewish family history), Rumsfeld, Rockefeller, etc. Check out the Obama administration for Jews. It might just shock you that such a small group of people could have such a big influence in American politics. Heck, his Chief of Staff is said to have admitted he served in the Israeli military!
You have shown your true beastiality, Non-Patriot. You subscribe to the revisionist history nut cases that deny the Holocaust.
If you were truthful, you would find that the evidence confirms the Holocaust. SS records indicate apporximately 5 million Jews were murdered in the camps and in Aktions. Not all murders were reported or documented. 6 million is a fair working number. And the Nazis murdered about the same number of non-Jews in Aktions and the camps.
Hoess admitted to about 2 million were murdered at Auschwitz-Birkinau. Remember Treblinka, Sobibor, Majdanek, Chelmno, and Belzec. Those were the primary murder camps.
Again, you are full of bull ****e and are branded a liar.
If you believe the Holocaust was false, then YOU provide the proof that it is a lie. |
| By An. Patriot, 11-16-09, 04:54 AM |
| PB said: “You have shown your true beastiality, Non-Patriot. You subscribe to the revisionist history nut cases that deny the Holocaust."
No, I consider propaganda that 6 million jews died during the so-called “Holocaust” to be the real revisionist history.
“If you were truthful, you would find that the evidence confirms the Holocaust. SS records indicate apporximately 5 million Jews were murdered in the camps and in Aktions."
Really now? Have you actually seen and authenticated these “SS records” yourself? If not, how do you know they are real?
“Not all murders were reported or documented."
In other words, they made up the numbers out of thin air! By the way, Texe Marrs (www.powerofprophecy.com) had a program on this subject and he interviewed some Jews who have some knowledge on the subject. For example, a jew named Bauer published a document exposing that the rumor that Jewish remains were turned into soap WAS A HOAX, that a JEWISH RABBI SUPPOSIVELY PREDICTED THAT A HOLOCAUST WAS GOING TO HAPPEN 40 YEARS EARLIER (World War 1 didn’t produce his claims - he was shown to be a fraud until the jews lied about the numbers for WW2 - That is convenient, isn’t it?), that a 1990 “official” report now admits that 4 million jews did NOT DIE AT Auschwitz (claims were said to be closer to a million people (not just Jews) total -check Israeli museum), that a jewish reporter said that it was the Communist that made THEM LIE ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST (By the way, it was the World Jewish Congress that MADE UP THE 6 MILLION NUMBER [a magical number for the Jews - see cabala]), that there was NO EVIDENCE HITLER ACTUALLY ORDERED ANY HOLOCAUST AT ALL AND that a German soldier confessed to that number ONLY AFTER BEING TORTURED, etc. PB, you should actually read some books like “A Greater Miracle” by Brian K?, Book” An Eye for an Eye” by a jew named John Sacs (?Spelling), “Grusome Harvest” (Were those all jews you saw in those horrible pictures or were they really “Germans” who were prisoners?), etc. Can you tell the difference between a German and a Jew, PB? LOL PB, you have drunk too much of our government’s coolaid and you are drunk on their lies.
PS You should look at the book called “Marx and Satan” which was written by a self called Jewish/Christian WHO SPENT TIME IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP AND LIVED TO TELL ABOUT IT.
P.S.S. Heck, I bet you still think Einstein was a genius! What? Never heard the story about how he worked at the patent office and stoled someone elses ideas and claimed them for himself. Who? It was said to be Nikola Tesla’s ideas THAT HE STOLED. Power of Prophecy has done a story on that subject too.
“Hoess admitted to about 2 million were murdered at Auschwitz-Birkinau. Remember Treblinka, Sobibor, Majdanek, Chelmno, and Belzec. Those were the primary murder camps."
And you believe “Hoess”? Why him? |
| By Pontotoc Bill, 11-16-09, 06:26 PM |
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An. Patriot;168669:
PB said: “You have shown your true beastiality, Non-Patriot. You subscribe to the revisionist history nut cases that deny the Holocaust."
No, I consider propaganda that 6 million jews died during the so-called “Holocaust” to be the real revisionist history.
And you now admit you believe lies and inane crap.
]“If you were truthful, you would find that the evidence confirms the Holocaust. SS records indicate apporximately 5 million Jews were murdered in the camps and in Aktions."
Really now? Have you actually seen and authenticated these “SS records” yourself? If not, how do you know they are real?
“Not all murders were reported or documented."
In other words, they made up the numbers out of thin air! By the way, Texe Marrs ([URL=“http://www.powerofprophecy.com”:
www.powerofprophecy.com[/URL]) had a program on this subject and he interviewed some Jews who have some knowledge on the subject. For example, a jew named Bauer published a document exposing that the rumor that Jewish remains were turned into soap WAS A HOAX, that a JEWISH RABBI SUPPOSIVELY PREDICTED THAT A HOLOCAUST WAS GOING TO HAPPEN 40 YEARS EARLIER (World War 1 didn’t produce his claims - he was shown to be a fraud until the jews lied about the numbers for WW2 - That is convenient, isn’t it?), that a 1990 “official” report now admits that 4 million jews did NOT DIE AT Auschwitz (claims were said to be closer to a million people (not just Jews) total -check Israeli museum), that a jewish reporter said that it was the Communist that made THEM LIE ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST (By the way, it was the World Jewish Congress that MADE UP THE 6 MILLION NUMBER [a magical number for the Jews - see cabala]), that there was NO EVIDENCE HITLER ACTUALLY ORDERED ANY HOLOCAUST AT ALL AND that a German soldier confessed to that number ONLY AFTER BEING TORTURED, etc. PB, you should actually read some books like “A Greater Miracle” by Brian K?, Book” An Eye for an Eye” by a jew named John Sacs (?Spelling), “Grusome Harvest” (Were those all jews you saw in those horrible pictures or were they really “Germans” who were prisoners?), etc. Can you tell the difference between a German and a Jew, PB? LOL PB, you have drunk too much of our government’s coolaid and you are drunk on their lies.
Tex Marrs is WORTHLESS as evidence. I have seen photo copies of the SS records. Hermann Goering and Reinhard Heydrich were the two who set up the Die Endlösung as they called it. Goering would not have settled the problem with Heydrich without the verbal approval of Hitler. To deny it is to lie in the face of all facts. I suggest you read the minutes of the “Wannasee Conference”.
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PS You should look at the book called “Marx and Satan” which was written by a self called Jewish/Christian WHO SPENT TIME IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP AND LIVED TO TELL ABOUT IT.
P.S.S. Heck, I bet you still think Einstein was a genius! What? Never heard the story about how he worked at the patent office and stoled someone elses ideas and claimed them for himself. Who? It was said to be Nikola Tesla’s ideas THAT HE STOLED. Power of Prophecy has done a story on that subject too.
“Hoess admitted to about 2 million were murdered at Auschwitz-Birkinau. Remember Treblinka, Sobibor, Majdanek, Chelmno, and Belzec. Those were the primary murder camps."
And you believe “Hoess”? Why him?
There was a BIG difference between a concentration camp and an extermination camp. Dachau was a concentration camp. Treblinka was an extermination camp. |
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